"...May it be to the world, what I believe it will be, (to some parts sooner, to others later, but finally to all,) the Signal of arousing men to burst the chains, under which monkish ignorance and superstition had persuaded them to bind themselves, and to assume the blessings & security of self-government..." Jefferson in DK post.
Maybe I attributed this wrong the first time. That will not happen now.
(The American Rebellion, you see, was not fundamentally a secular Enlightenment revolt about taxes or representation or the concept of contractarianism or suffrage at all, but about other things, for most all of the rebels. There were a few very radical quasi atheist secularist rebels among them, most notably Thomas Jefferson, but the rebellion was fueled overwhelmingly by religious zeal and the exhortations of unbridled radical ministers.)
"Within the culture of the international Enlightenment, the right of rebellion became an article of the new faith, self-justifying and immune to historical review." Clark, p 279. See also: Jefferson quote, same page.
"...even social-Darwinist discussions of racial difference in England can be seen to depend on the older idea that race was a superficial characteristic; what mattered about race was only its role as a marker of the very different degrees of development among peoples along that path of progressive civilization which would lead to a post-nationalist outcome..." Clark
Sunday, March 12, 2017
JEFFERSON AND SECESSION BLOG QUOTATIONS
Tuesday, October 25, 2016
WOOD THEY KNEW NOT WHAT THEY HAD WROUGHT
Monday, August 14, 2017
RE PIKETTY'S SO CALLED DISCOVERY 5% RETURN FOR THE TOP 1% JEFFERSON THE DARK SIDE
Saturday, February 23, 2019
ALL MEN WERE CREATED EQUAL IN THAT EACH ONE COULD HAVE THEORETICALLY KILLED ANY OTHER ONE IN ORIGINAL STATE OF NATURE
Tuesday, July 23, 2019
THOMAS JEFFERSON 1776 DICK ANTI SEMITIC DEIST ATHEIST MOVE
Tuesday, November 1, 2016
RE AMERICAN JACOBINISM JEFFERSON DECLINE OF THE WEST
Re my recent post:
WOOD THEY KNEW NOT WHAT THEY HAD WROUGHT
LEONHARDT WANTS AN OUTSIDE GAME.
WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN?
ARMED DISSENT IF THOUGHT PROPER BY DISSENTERS. THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN JEFFERSON'S VIEW, AND IT WAS HIS IDEOLOGY. SO LEONHARDT IS ON SOLID FOUNDING FATHER GROUND HERE.
WOOD THEY KNEW NOT WHAT THEY HAD WROUGHT
Re Alan Taylor's NYT article, although Wood seems to exonerate the founders at some places in Radicalism, he does quote passages from correspondence in Empire that show he knew Jefferson's true colors. See Empire, Index, Jefferson, French Revolution, eg p 179, etc. He was everything Hamilton accused him of, and more.
Wednesday, June 12, 2013
FOR THE HAMILTONIANS OUT THERE A PROPOS LIBERTY AND EQUALITY AND JEFFERSON FOR ALL
From a prior post:
"In a similar vein, the ideas of the Founding Fathers, as Bailyn has pointed out, owed more to radical Protestantism, and the common law, (one could also add commercial self interests, including, preponderantly, smuggling, tax evasion, and slavery) than to enlightenment ideas per se."
"In a similar vein, the ideas of the Founding Fathers, as Bailyn has pointed out, owed more to radical Protestantism, and the common law, (one could also add commercial self interests, including, preponderantly, smuggling, tax evasion, and slavery) than to enlightenment ideas per se."
Saturday, May 5, 2018
COUNTERACTING THE WHIGIFICATION OF JEFFERSON
See Richard K Matthews, The Radical Politics of Thomas Jefferson.
I have referred to Matthews before...
Great stuff.
I have referred to Matthews before...
Great stuff.
Sunday, July 8, 2018
ABRAHAM LINCOLN EARL OF DUNMORE REVOLUTIONARY COUNTERREVOLUTIONARY BOTH EMANCIPATORS
Dylan Matthews...slavery and revolution...
Saturday, November 25, 2017
DOWNSTAIRS AN INTERVIEW WNYC SOUNDS LIKE SMUGGLER NATION AUTHOR
Few Americans know this real story. They think their ancestors were all free eager colonists coming over here to create a brave new world.
Read Smuggler Nation, just to wake up. Then go to Ideological Origins of the American Revolution, and Empires of the Atlantic World, but you need your thinking cap on.
Then go right into Colonists in Bondage for the piece du resistance.
At one time at least seventy percent of those convicted at The Old Bailey were sent to America (all were white).... Back cover.
Where do you think the rest might have gone? How about Australia?
Only after that, read the mountain of mostly bull about how bad only negro slavery was here in North America.
Guess what? Another actual history bomb then drops:
Only about one tenth of all negro slaves were ever even sent to North America. Nine tenths were sent to the West Indies and South America.
Believe me, when you read the fuller accounts, North America was a virtual garden spot for the relatively few Negro slaves sent here, as well as for the white indentured servants, political prisoners (Irish, jacobites, quakers, etc), and convicts sent both places too, compared to either the Caribbean or South America!
Very few white prisoners turned into Captain Blood! Most of them died a lot faster than the negro slaves sent to the Indies and South America. They couldn't take the tropics. That is why, over time, negroes commanded twice the price of white labor in the Indies and South America.
Very few white prisoners turned into Captain Blood! Most of them died a lot faster than the negro slaves sent to the Indies and South America. They couldn't take the tropics. That is why, over time, negroes commanded twice the price of white labor in the Indies and South America.
The negroes sent here were actually able to live in conditions that allowed them to procreate! Jefferson has a nice account of how his slaves are incorporated into his capitalist nail manufacturing business, and how he made money on the sale of his slaves' children, realizing he estimated 5% a year on them, all told. "Unmasking Thomas Jefferson", Smithsonian Magazine.
That was not the case either in the West Indies or South America, where they were worked to death without procreation privileges, because it was more profitable to import more than to pay for their maintenance.
Don't take my word for it, see J H Elliott, Bailyn, Smith, and a myriad of other highly respected sources. Before 1776, Teaching Company video lecture course, also very good.
Smell the coffee.
Tuesday, December 3, 2019
JEFFERSON A CLOSET ATHEIST LINCOLN AN ABOLITIONIST FDR A SOCIALIST
ALL HIDDEN FROM THE ELECTORATE
Jefferson arguably was better characterized as a Deist than as an atheist. He wanted the whole country and world to go unitarian.
David Brooks is a minister in this sect, although he is also a Jew. Some see no contradiction in this. he recently officiated at a wedding ceremony for Joshua Bell, a friend of his.
Jefferson arguably was better characterized as a Deist than as an atheist. He wanted the whole country and world to go unitarian.
David Brooks is a minister in this sect, although he is also a Jew. Some see no contradiction in this. he recently officiated at a wedding ceremony for Joshua Bell, a friend of his.
Monday, October 21, 2019
NYT LEONHARDT ADVOCATES PATRIOT DISSENT PUBLIC PROTEST GRASS ROOTS ACTIVISM
LEONHARDT WANTS AN OUTSIDE GAME.
WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN?
ARMED DISSENT IF THOUGHT PROPER BY DISSENTERS. THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN JEFFERSON'S VIEW, AND IT WAS HIS IDEOLOGY. SO LEONHARDT IS ON SOLID FOUNDING FATHER GROUND HERE.
Tuesday, October 1, 2019
BURKE JEFFERSON EN FACE THE LANGUAGE OF LIBERTY CH 3
Wonderful passage, in this long wonderful chapter, Burke p 278, Jefferson p 279.
Monday, February 11, 2019
MALCOLM X' STORY BECAME LIBERALISM'S STORY
“I don’t speak as a Democrat or a Republican, nor an American. I speak as a victim of America’s so-called democracy,” Malcolm X intoned. “You and I have never seen democracy — all we’ve seen is hypocrisy.”
"It’s a widely known fact that American Founding Father Thomas Jefferson owned slaves, and he is now regarded as having fathered six children with one of his slaves, Sally Hemings. But less widely acknowledged or accepted is another disturbing fact that is hard to escape: Jefferson was almost certainly a white supremacist."
"As for the appearance of whites, he argues that their features, including hair, make them more sexually appealing, claiming that Black people are sexually attracted to white people “as uniformly as is the preference of the Oranootan (Orangutan) for the black women over those of his own species.”"
Sunday, December 16, 2018
JEFFERSON AND ROUSSEAU
https://almostchosenpeople.wordpress.com/2010/01/07/jefferson-and-rousseau-on-democracy/
Thursday, July 12, 2018
JEFFERSON WAS A DEIST
Sunday, December 4, 2016
JEFFERSON ON RACE BLACK WHITE AND RED
He thought Americans should assimilate the Indians and transport the slaves.
What did Americans do?
They made citizens of the slaves and transported the Indians.
What did Americans do?
They made citizens of the slaves and transported the Indians.
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