Floyd's niece had asked something like when had America ever been great?
I agreed, but not at all for her or Lerer's stupid as fuck reasons.
This Lerer rant belongs in The 1619 Project Hall of Fame:
She says the past was terrible for everyone who wasn't a white male, basically.
She thinks that negroes built America and Western Europe from 1500. Dumb as fuck.
When had the past every been great, for most all people, who had ever lived of any color, including white, sex, orientation, religion, nationality?
When had America ever been great?
When it still retained vestiges of a successful Western civilizational heritage, not one based on slavery, but incorporating it, along with the hard bondage treatment of white Western settlers as well, for whom it had certainly also not been great at all.
But for those poor Western whites, bad as things were, by the time of the Industrial Revolution in the West, conditions for them had suddenly become incomparably better than for savages in Africa, India, or Southeast or North East Asia. Gregory Cclark actually did the numbers. Even someone like Braudel made similar observations.
But for those poor Western whites, bad as things were, by the time of the Industrial Revolution in the West, conditions for them had suddenly become incomparably better than for savages in Africa, India, or Southeast or North East Asia. Gregory Cclark actually did the numbers. Even someone like Braudel made similar observations.
Apart from that, most all people in the world and in history and prehistory got what they were dealt in their time.
For the enormous expanse of history and prehistory, they almost all, of any color, got life and death under terrible conditions.
Most all of the people now alive still live under terrible conditions that neither Lerer nor anyone else here of any color will change for the better, but rather likely for the worse. Trust me.
See Colonists In Bondage, for one account of the long sad history of white bondservants in colonial America, written by a well respected historian who spent most of his career working for the CIA.
You will see much the same general story, re white servitude forced labor, if you ever come close to sniffing Bailyn's Voyagers......., or Elliott, Empires Of The Atlantic World, two of the most highly respected historians of the 20th Century you never heard of.
For a great very detailed very chunky account by a bleeding heart white liberal, of just how far back, thousands of years before African slavery after 1500 to the New World began, white and Muslim anti negro racism went, see White Over Black.
One can see, from the Biblical references in White Over Black that Hebrew, and probably other tribes' anti negro racism had gone back to prehistoric times, certainly at least in the Middle East, and very probably elsewhere along the southern coast of Eurasia.
So when some bozo tells you that anti negro racism only began, and was only caused by negro slavery from Africa to the New World after 1500, you just laugh at their dumbasses.
Neither the backwardness of Africa and Asia, nor the advanced industrial states of Europe, had much to do with either colonialism or negro slavery, either way, either before or after it. Wade, A Troublesome Inheritance, See especially Ch 7, and Gregory Clark; Paul Bairoch; Fernand Braudel.
Japan was the only industrializing non European power in the 19th Century, taking everything from the West, and for a hundred years trying to give as little as possible back.
You will see much the same general story, re white servitude forced labor, if you ever come close to sniffing Bailyn's Voyagers......., or Elliott, Empires Of The Atlantic World, two of the most highly respected historians of the 20th Century you never heard of.
For a great very detailed very chunky account by a bleeding heart white liberal, of just how far back, thousands of years before African slavery after 1500 to the New World began, white and Muslim anti negro racism went, see White Over Black.
One can see, from the Biblical references in White Over Black that Hebrew, and probably other tribes' anti negro racism had gone back to prehistoric times, certainly at least in the Middle East, and very probably elsewhere along the southern coast of Eurasia.
So when some bozo tells you that anti negro racism only began, and was only caused by negro slavery from Africa to the New World after 1500, you just laugh at their dumbasses.
Neither the backwardness of Africa and Asia, nor the advanced industrial states of Europe, had much to do with either colonialism or negro slavery, either way, either before or after it. Wade, A Troublesome Inheritance, See especially Ch 7, and Gregory Clark; Paul Bairoch; Fernand Braudel.
Japan was the only industrializing non European power in the 19th Century, taking everything from the West, and for a hundred years trying to give as little as possible back.
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